Unfortunately, this week and the next is my finals week(s?), which will ultimately decide how I live the rest of my life. So, in the interests of not living the rest of my live raving under a bridge about internet spaceships for spare change, I’ve not played much Eve this week or the last two. Consequently, I haven’t been able to write anything funny because I didn’t DO anything funny. So, instead of making a post about not making a post and possibly getting into an argument with myself, here’s my thoughts on the alliance tourney participants:
Against ALL Authorities -> chased us out of my first nullsec experience
Agony Empire -> Teachers of shooting, expect “just got schooled” and such from the official commentators.
Arbeitaholics Anonymous -> Why someone would combine the german word for “work” with “ahoics Anonymous” escapes me.
Atlas Alliance ->We rent from them, but still can’t use the JB network and NOIR is currently on contract to “irritate/annoy atlas renters”. Thanks guys!
B A N E -> Batman villian: This time he’s serious.
Beyond Virginity -> I was not aware Virginity was something you could go beyond…seemed more like a yes/no type o thing.
BricK sQuAD. -> “mY dAmN shIft kEY iS bUggeD MaybE soMeonE eLSe SHoUld MAke thE ALliaNce” “Naw man, it was your idea, you should do it!”
Circle-Of-Two -> Have you guys ever tried to define a circle using only two points? It’s harder than it sounds, I keep ending up with ovals.
Cry Havoc. -> sorry guys, it’s spelled with two “a”s and a zero.
Curatores Veritatis Alliance -> Who?
DarkSide. -> of the moooooonn!
Dead Terrorists -> Killed me in an itty V in a lowsec gatecamp and taught me a valuable lesson about hauling fully fit scan ships in cargo instead of just flying the damn things. Also how stupid the idea of tanking a hauler is.
death from above.. -> Much easier to scream than “Death from the side” or “Death from the north!”
Dystopia Alliance -> I take it you’ll be flying minnie?
Electric Monkey Overlords -> In recent studies, monkeys are horrible at Eve and even worse while being submitted to electroshock therapy.
Electus Matari -> First thought: blue chick from Avatar. Second thought: Pokemon.
Erebus Alliance -> Should do much better than Velator Alliance, the commentator favorite of AT0.5
Eve Engineering -> We built this spaceship….. We built this spaceship on poooods and troooolls!
Get Off My Lawn -> Wait wait, don’t tell me, you guys….freighter service? You couldn’t possibly be another nullsec alliance touchy about holding space with a name like that.
GoonSwarm -> by Goonswarm do you mean the one dude with the dread fleet or the alliance who’d really rather that the dude give the dreads back?
Honourable Templum of Alcedonia -> Atlas renters. They’d better be careful if they end up against Atlas >.>
HUN Reloaded -> “Attila: This time he’s pissed off!”
Huzzah Federation -> A federation based off a cheer cannot possibly fail. It’s a rule.
HYDRA RELOADED -> Soon to be seen in the upcoming sequel crossover: “Attila Vs the greek myths. Part two”
Important Internet Spaceship League -> The Unimportant Farmers Tractor League sadly did not qualify this year for various reasons.
Indecisive Certainty -> You just blew, like, my MIND man.
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate -> Now thatsh a Conglomerat that I can reshpect!
Intrepid Crossing -> like Washington and the Delaware, only it’s internet spaceships, they arn’t crossing anything and there is no boat to speak of. Informative!
Ivy League -> I will respect both you and Agony infinitley if, if you guys end up against eachother, you both all fly noobships.
Leguinea Romana -> Was there ever a Rome in eve-canon?
Majesta Empire -> Up next in opera:
Manifest Destiny. -> Pah, you north coalition guys think you’re so hot, but all this time you couldn’t even take Venal? Tisk tisk.
Monks of War. -> Think of a monk with a rife. Yeah, my brain disconnected too.
Morsus Mihi -> Don’t think no-one sees you moving into Mostly Harmless space. Coalition my left foot!
Mos Vape Heavy Industries ->Sorry guys, you’re not allowed to setup a PoS and build more ships on the battlefield.
Negative Ten. -> “Because we didn’t really like moving around without being shot at anyway”
Noir. Mercenary Group -> So when AT8 starts you’ll stop camping our system in SBs?
Old Intentions -> Intentions do not, in fact, get better with age. Have fun petitioning CCP to let you put up player-owned stations or whatever the heck your intentions were years ago.
OWN Alliance -> Because you’d feel pretty silly entering “THEIRS Alliance” in a tourney.
Paisti Syndicate -> Misspelling of “pastry”?
Panda Team -> Because “Team Aardvark” wasn’t funny enough?
Pandemic Legion -> Previous winners (yay!) who seem to have members going around exploiting local (boo!)
Perihelion Alliance -> name too hard to pronounce, didn’t read.
Pitch Black Legion -> no matter what subsystems you fit to a legion, it will never be black. Sorry to dissapoint you guys.
Plutonix -> Named after a rock that recently lost it’s planet license.
RAZOR Alliance -> “Really Awesome Zorz Omg Really. Alliance.
RED.OVERLORD -> “Guys, my space and shift keys are stuck” “Just use the period, no-one’ll notice”
Rote Kapelle -> Red Orchestra. Awesome, I love orchestral music.
Silver Twilight Enterprises -> Has anyone ever tried to make twilight silver? It is much harder than it looks.
Snatch Victory -> Again, expect “snatched victory” jokes from commentators
SOLAR FLEET -> Defeating you with the power of clean efficient victory!
Soldiers of Thunderstorm -> Burnin fast, burnin last on the long distant road, through the lost mountains endless so far away from hoooooo- oh, you said thunderstorm.
T o r m e n t u m -> Pronounce each letter individually for desired effect.
The G0dfathers -> /me thought there was only one.
The Kadeshi -> holy shit, there is no way these guys can possibly effing lose.
THE R0NIN ->typ1ng a z3r0 1n 0u4 n4m3 m4k3s u5 l00k c00l.
THE SPACE P0LICE -> n0 w3 r c00ler.
The Star Fraction -> “We couldn’t find an entire star”
The Tusker Bastards -> Two great jerks that taste great together? Nope, they’re still probably jerks.
The Wrong Alliance -> (more mind blowing)
Unaffiliated -> (mind blown again)
Ushra’Khan -> wardecced us about the same time AAA kicked us out of null, months ago. Resulting war was named “The IMU war”. (Infinity Miners Union)
Veni Vidi Vici -> If you already came, saw, and conquered, what are you still doing here? Go find girlfriends.
WE FORM VOLTRON -> CAPS LOCKS IS CRUSE CONTROL FOR COOL
In closing, why the heck didn’t CCRES enter?
Not so recently, CCRES came into our wormhole, noticed an orca floating in the shields, killed all our defences and reinforced our tower in case we had forgotten to put strontium in a tower in a dread-accepting enviroment.
The fact that they felt that the lack of strontium was a possibility makes me lose a little faith in the foresight of the Eve wormhole community.
Recently, I was contacted by a CCRES member who told me that they put the PoS into reinforced mostly for fun. Acting on various word cues in his description, I managed to decypher THIS message:
“Our reason was far grander than a petty Orca and what we had in the corp hangar, for the legendary tales of your pvp prowess and twisted cunning in use of cloaky ships was so utterly terrifying that we could not just close the connecting WH but attacked your tower in hopes that having their ships destroyed by your considerable defenses, THEN closing the connecting WH with what few ships remained would be the only way to appease your unquantifiable wrath. Unfortunately, the tower’s defenses had been mostly offlined and unanchored into the corp hangar due to a spy, who after his two year infiltration campaign only now had the courage to act on his orders to mildly inconvenience you, then immediately killed himself out of fear and shame. We were thus forced to put the inconvenienced tower into full reinforced, to better reflect it’s former armed glory until a point in the future where you could reanchor your powerful and majestic defenses.”
Anyway, we had the full compliment so they settled for sending us a mail essentially saying:
“Hey, we put your pos in reinforced looking for free ships, you should probably try this configuration next time”
(For those interested they recommended dickstar)
After the reinforced timer ended we repped the PoS in a rorqual, orca and a few BSs which got MUCH faster once we realized the ending of reinforced meant that we could access the cap rechargers, power relays and energy xfer arrays in the corp hangar.
Anyway, this shite got me thinking. Wormhole territory is fast becoming a shifting battlefield. PoS takedowns, once the product of Amarr BS fleets that passed out at their keyboards firing at abandoned structures, are becoming more frequent and frankly, kinda alarming. Between a friend of mine getting attacked by two dreads w/ BS support fleet, Planet Risk owning then being owned by R&K, and CCRES’s “Stront check” of our PoS, I’d like to give an overview of PoS defense in a wormhole:
Here’s a little more detailed and less cynical view:
Size restrictions allow only battlecruiser hulls or smaller, but know that haulers, which can hold cap parts, large towers, fuel, x-large ship assembly arrays and everything else required to build a dread to kill your PoSes, can.
Small guns, some medium guns anchored but not online. BC hulls or smaller usually means your only attackers will have poor dps, so hardeners are recommended. By the time they’ve built a dread you should already be gone >.>
Battleships are allowed in here, good for sites, bad when someone hates you, has a route to you and has a BS fleet handy can be a significant threat to your well-being. Build a carrier and rent/own/know someone who has a carrier pilot handy to scare off/murder/ambush attackers.
Carriers are “allowed” to jump in here, hence you should be prepared. Don’t ask me how, we still haven’t come up with a a counter to a carrier/dread with support fleet.
Essentially, the deeper you go, the more likley you are to be screwed, because the less time attackers have to invest in beating you into the ground. A battlecruiser takedown of a PoS is torture, a BS takedown isn’t much fun, and a dread-assisted takedown is about less than an hour, so an attacker’s time invested in making your life a living hell is much less than what it took for you to get two capitals, orcas, and the other thirty ships you’ve amassed over several months into the wormhole.
Point is, if someone wants you out of a specific hole, they can motivate you to get out. If you fit guns, they’ll wait for your offtime and have RR gangs. If you fit ECM, they’ll bring a dread and sensor boosters. If you go full hardeners, they’ll bring a dread again. If you find the most amazing awesome pos configuration ever, they’ll just starve you of fuel. They can activate all your sites with a scan ship every morning, camp your static, build a dread, any number of things in mind to make you think “boy, I wish they weren’t here or I wasn’t here”. The best defence, IMO, is two fold:
The first and more reasonable method is to have several friends and/or piles of isk to hire several friends. Eve is a spreadsheet game, but is refreshingly simple in combat calculations, which usually amount to “Whoever has the most experienced friends wins”.
The method that, us lacking large groups of friends and a general sense of comradery, is to be ready to be gone. Write the PoS off as already dead, and have the expensive gear in capital ships/industrials. When, not if, WHEN you get attacked by a superior force move to a deep safe you’ve created before deep safes were nerfed(before May 18), and/or make a safe in system and logoff in it. Then, scan your static, which, since you’ve been preparing for this exact situation for a while, goes to a C4 or higher WH and will close exactly after you pass your entire operation through it, once it’s been shoved into cap ships/orcas. If said static has a static C4 or higher, move in, setup the backup pos and either rebuild there or go through the next static.
The third method, that dedicated people of eve will probably do, and do better than me, is to want the hole more. Have an Orca/carrier cloak in system w/ lots of SB hulls, scan ships hulls, and fits. Get 5-10 people in. Proceed to activate every site after downtime, bomb the static periodically and generally make whoever tried to take your hole/lives in the hole you want wish they’d never heard of a local-lacking environment. Take 200 combat scan probes, launch seven, cloak. Repeat every 2 hours or so. Eventually, they will leave. Wait a week. If they come back, do it all again, if they don’t, setup a small pos and put a maint array/hangar in it. Have one big ship and one small ship for each pilot. Pilots logoff in big ships w/ scan ships/SBs in orca and CHEAP haulers/other ships in the small tower’s maint array. Don’t bother putting anything in the small tower’s corp hangar, as anyone who finds it will try to put it into reinforced, making removal of the stuff difficult. Don’t worry about defenses, again, if someone wants the tower dead, it’s dead. Make sure to have stront, and if the dudes come back lookin for trouble, unanchor the pos (using a cheap hauler w/ SB support), stuff it in the Orca and go back to step one. Repeat as necessary until they stop coming back and you feel safe enough to anchor a large pos and/or keep living out of orcas/capitals. Use any spare orcas/carriers to collapse the static at inoppertune times, and restock your equipment (using cheap haulers) at 5 am their time and/or downtime. Bubble the static and cloak SBs nearby.
People attack your wormhole because they’ve either been hired to do it, they want your sites, or they’re just bored. The bored will leave, the hired will eventually stop working for the hirer, and the people that want your sites won’t get your sites because you activated all the sites every downtime. An Orca, a few scan ships and SBs w/ fits is not expensive at all compared to WH sites, so you can make their lives irritating w/ very little expense on your end. The person who wins will eventually either be the person/people who get bored first. Or, someone runs out of money. Who’s gonna run out of money first, the people w/ covops cloaks or the people who can’t cloak while they fight sleepers or mine?
Before I start, if anyone reading this sees TeaDaze, tell him I said “I told you so”.
Early on, when we were still drafting plans for mining in the static C5, one of the major problems was that hauling the ore through the connecting WH would slowly whittle down the mass to the point that we might not be able to fit the Hulks, Orca, ectera back through, condeming them to a lifetime of trying to build a scan probe launcher out of spare parts, and when that failed, crashing each ship into a separate planet and re-creating civilization, prospering on individual planets until inter-planet contact is established, at which point a war is sparked. This commits each population to the destruction of the other, draining each planet of resources to construct vessels of war, which are launched into space only to be loaded onto my Orca, and shipped to Jita while holoreels of old spaceship battles are shipped back to the population, with all news networks carefully manipulated to keep the war going indefinitely…..
Wait, sorry, that’s my Tyrannis plan. Anyway, an alternate solution of making a deep, deep safespot and having the rorqual compress ore on site in safety was one of our “really good ideas”, which, unfortunately, will soon be impossible since to the disabling of said exploit, which is at the top of CCP’s “fix now” list, instead of some other things that I remember being upset about but apparently I’m not passionate enough about to remember. The one legitimate reason for nerfing deep safes I’ve heard so far are some people in null are putting their Dominion shoot-me-to-take-system thingys way out there making warping to them difficult. Oh, and it’s an exploit.
The more enjoyable explanation, in my opinion, is that CCP is trying to discourage blob warfare by making it unfeasible from a lag standpoint, encouraging hit-and-run groups attacking several strategic areas instead of 300 man cap fleets eliminating everything so fast they redefine the word “superior firepower”. But hey, that’s just the ramblings of someone who thinks a bit too much into these things.
The 20 AU limit seems fair, as the only non-exploiting way to get that far now is flying an interceptor in the preferred direction for several years, the major point being that there is no longer anywhere convenient to stuff a large cap fleet while their grid loads. See aforementioned conspiracy theory.
Anyway, cataclysmic variable did a much more serious analysis, but I disagree on his conclusion that “We have the power to change this game”.
The end result, deep safes unusable, is still going to happen. We’ve managed to achieve “we’ll move the ships” instead of “we’ll blow up the ships”, but there is still no-where to park a supercapital and there still will be no way to exit out mid-warp when you realize you’re warping into a gatecamp/death. You can say “we changed things”, but really, what’s different? The five people who quit Eve while in a safespot and didn’t leave any contact information with friends lose a ship that they apparently don’t care about.
It will still be impossible to fight on a grandiose scale without lag occurring, and now grid loading issues will be crippling because when a cyno is lit in a system with a defending fleet, the defending fleet will warp to that cyno, the attacking fleet will have grid load issues, ectera.
So, the three options are either have the attacking fleet in system BEFORE the defending fleet, or attack several points at once, or don’t use blobs. See CCP Conspiracy theory. Also, it’s probably worth noting that on all the forum’s I’ve read, the devs only respond to questions not including the phrase “Fix the lag before you fix deep safes”. COINCIDENCE?
Also, CCP has THREE letters, but only TWO Cs. COINCIDENCE? I think NOT!
The Icelandic volcano has shut down European air travel the same day deep safe nerfs were announced. COINCIDENCE?
I’m hungry, so I shall go make a sandwich. COINCIDENCE?
In case you hadn’t noticed, I like to make people laugh, insofar as to make it one of my goals in life/Eve. Since remembering who chuckled at my comments in life is hard, I’ve settled for keeping a log of making people laugh in eve. Enjoy, and this is just as of starting about a month ago.
[ 2010.03.08 02:43:04 ] haav0c > how could i have been so foolish.
[ 2010.03.08 02:43:06 ] Baillif > lol
[03:36:53] Damark > lol
[03:52:36] Klyria > lol
[03:59:26] Sherron > lol
[04:25:02] Torolphilies > lol
[04:25:05] Klyria > lol
[16:11:53] Zarkk > lol, point taken
[18:47:23] Sif9 > lol
[18:47:39] Got Roid > lmfao
[18:59:33] Sif9 > haha
[20:53:30] Raath Nambode > lol
[20:59:17] Vinyacam > lol
[21:58:13] Raath Nambode > XD
[00:29:35] Aquiesce > lmao
[01:29:14] haav0c > i needed an impressive number
[01:29:15] Aquiesce > lol
[01:50:25] haav0c > less UNINTENDED dieing.
[01:50:30] Raath Zee > lol
[01:41:50] haav0c > ./golfclap
[01:42:42] Moya Noranti > lol
[02:27:14] haav0c > second time i’ve asked for that.
[02:27:18] Cazos > lol
[12:44:23] haav0c > CAN I FLY AN EXHUMER
[12:44:29] CP laforge > lol
[12:49:04] haav0c > nevermind
[12:49:11] CP laforge > lol
[14:55:36] Indiego Montoya > FLEET WARP OUT WARP OUT OMFG BUMPING OFF ROCKS DAMNIT
[14:55:44] Damark > lol
[21:36:01] Damark > haha
[21:37:14] Damark > lol
[18:32:38] Harrowedsmiley > LOL
[15:57:46] Titus Balls > lol
[15:57:59] Damark > haha
[16:03:04] Ivanna Nuke > lol
[16:03:46] Bert Rebus > lol
[16:29:41] Damark > lol
[16:49:43] Saelyre > lol
[17:22:35] Damark > lol
[17:27:33] Damark > lol
[22:02:54] Damark > lol
[19:32:58] Dudicon > rofl
[22:05:45] Damark > lol
[22:06:11] Damark > haha
[22:35:44] Nashh Kadavr > lol
[22:40:12] Nashh Kadavr > lol
[02:26:16] Ventrue81 > hehe
[03:19:56] Damark > lol
Telling the story of my first WH
[16:00:56] Damark > lol
[16:03:53] ExookiZ > lol
[16:08:43] Borg Stoneson > lol
[16:08:57] Damark > hahaha
[16:09:07] Vas Havar > what a way to start!!! lol
[16:42:02] Saelyre > lol
[17:05:10] Damark > lol
[17:12:12] Damark > lol
[18:36:25] Damark > lol
[19:14:42] ac0lite > lol
[19:20:50] Damark > lol
[19:22:50] ExookiZ > lol
[00:45:32] Beowolf Schaefer > lol
[01:37:44] Dr Rammstein > lol
[01:37:47] Night Shades > lol
[06:24:40] Klyria > lol
[16:37:23] Bluelynx > rofl
[01:00:20] Mike Azariah > /emote is choking becaus eof that laughter
I run smack into a gatecamp and post a witty comment in local
[02:00:42] dxrom > XD
[02:01:33] QAOTIC > lol
[02:01:25] Leonvios > lols
[02:08:48] Quintrala > /emote laughs
[17:54:10] Dudicon > hahah
I attempt PVP with cyberin:
[20:08:12] Cyberin > lol
[20:16:34] Cyberin > lol
[20:19:55] Cyberin > lol
[20:22:48] Cazos > lol
[20:25:49] Cyberin > lol
[20:28:38] Cyberin > lol
[20:33:05] Cyberin > lol
[20:35:58] Cyberin > lol
[20:38:40] Cyberin > lol
[20:41:03] Cyberin > lol
[20:44:31] Cyberin > lol
[21:05:31] Ivanna Nuke > roflz
[21:10:18] Cyberin > 😀
[21:11:50] Cyberin > lol
[21:14:17] Cyberin > lol
[21:16:01] Cyberin > lol
[21:20:02] Cyberin > lol
[03:26:14] Misan Pal’taek > lol
[04:51:23] Damark > haha
[06:57:37] Alaria Tinburin > lol
[15:42:44] Damark > lol
[16:01:18] Damark > lol
[19:00:22] IMStrong > lol
[19:18:21] IMStrong > lol
[00:33:14] Raath Nambode > lol
[05:15:22] Ventrue81 > lolz
[05:15:20] Penates > lol
[05:20:30] Klyria > lol
[06:05:03] AlHami > haha
[13:04:30] FOXER > lol
[13:08:45] FOXER > lol
[13:09:11] FOXER > heh
[15:35:27] Merinid Dormer > lol
[16:03:56] Borg Stoneson > lol
[05:45:54] Klyria > lol
[05:50:03] Klyria > lol
[05:59:58] Klyria > lol
[06:00:07] Klyria > this will be amusing to say the least
[06:17:10] Billy Bligh > roflmao
[06:21:47] Klyria > lol
[06:23:36] Klyria > lol
[06:27:25] Aiden Mourn > heh
[06:30:24] Aiden Mourn > lol
[06:36:47] Aiden Mourn > LOL
[06:40:20] Aiden Mourn > hahaha
[16:49:35] Damark > lol
[16:50:24] Endo Scrote > lmao haavoc
[16:54:56] Damark > lol
[17:03:57] Damark > lol
[22:57:52] Nyxanthia > lol
[22:57:53] Borg Stoneson > lol
[18:18:05] ChaeDoc II > lmfao. that’s brilliant
[18:21:47] Saelyre > >.> LOL
[00:27:24] Nashh Kadavr > lol
[00:27:47] Nashh Kadavr > lols
[00:53:21] Jhared Skyfire > lol
[00:54:08] Jhared Skyfire > *snickers*
[00:55:09] ac0lite > lol]
[14:01:21] ac0lite > LOL
[23:46:36] Miroven > lol
[23:47:17] Miroven > lulz
[23:54:14] Miroven > lol
[02:02:44] Damark > lol
[02:21:31] Damark > lol
[13:03:50] Cyberin > lol
[14:32:34] haav0c > or they finally gave strip miners damage!
[14:32:41] Cyberin > lol
[01:04:56] haav0c > i don’t see any fuel alerts >.>
[01:04:57] Cazos > lol
[03:07:38] haav0c > the consolers would complain.
[03:07:45] Mark726 > lol
[15:54:12] korleena muran > come cry into my arms >.>
[15:54:17] Damark > lol
[04:31:44] Indiego Montoya > wait, no, archon
[04:31:53] Xicorio > lol
[04:42:51] Indiego Montoya > awww, did mistah stawfiwa have awww his iskwies in mwining eqwiptment?
[04:43:41] Harrowedsmiley > LOL
[04:47:35] Empress Shai > lol
[04:49:01] Klyria > lol
[21:32:42] haav0c > i like to think of it as “efficient”.
[21:33:36] Cazos > lol
[01:35:19] haav0c > you can write twelve pages on attracting women, yet you play eve 😛
[01:35:33] Arrhidaeus > rofl
[02:15:44] haav0c > fly, haav, fly!
[02:15:51] Ventrue81 > hehe
[12:51:16] haav0c > \o/ simplicity!
[12:51:26] Cazos > lol
[05:41:29] Indiego Montoya > my mouth burns!
[05:41:38] Indiego Montoya > with delicious cheesy flavor!
[05:42:01] Damark > lol
[20:44:28] haav0c > they were arguing in local when i came online >.>
[20:44:37] Caladan09 > lol
[21:29:25] haav0c > damark..you were wrong…lying to people asking for advice never gets easier.
[21:29:45] Lenina Huxley > lol
[22:30:53] haav0c > what did the covops say to the bomb?
[22:31:00] haav0c > nothing. because it was dead.
[22:32:18] Darth Skorpius > lol
[22:32:02] haav0c > ./me coughs is a personal fav of mine 😛
[22:32:18] Darth Skorpius > lol
[01:06:04] Mynxee > besides if i cybered all my potential votes they’d die from shock and then where would i be?
[01:06:12] haav0c > tired?
[01:06:23] Mynxee > lols
[01:12:18] haav0c > now, how much am i worth to each of you >.>
[01:12:24] Arrhidaeus > /emote chuckles
[01:19:03] haav0c > ever seen an itty V tackle someone?
[01:19:12] haav0c > me neither.
[01:19:21] Dutchuknowho > heh
[14:22:10] Indiego Montoya > mornin
[14:24:29] Diemar > morning? what timezone are you at?
[14:28:52] Indiego Montoya > the…cool one?
[14:29:01] Bluelynx > lol
[16:31:34] Kassa Daito > Tyrion, if you get a better probing configuration then you’ll not have that problem.
[16:32:21] haav0c > i personally shape the probes like a penis.
[16:32:23] haav0c > works great.
[16:32:26] Kassa Daito > lol
[18:46:29] SilkkyJohnston > its def one of the better ones of the blog pack
[18:46:46] haav0c > until i run out of material =(
[18:46:56] SilkkyJohnston > lol
[04:29:10] SBRDoc > Welcome to WSpace Colonists Annrea.. Best knowledge base for Wormholes in Eve… Sorry I shot you earlier…
[04:33:20] Indiego Montoya > i’m seeing that line as an introduction more and more these days >.>
[04:33:26] Klann Schreck > lol
[22:15:09] Jhared Skyfire > actually…that would really fuck up someones dscan
[22:15:42] Indiego Montoya > if i didn’t have ten fucking planets i’d do that >.>
[22:15:51] Jhared Skyfire > heh
[22:18:43] Kazemin > oo a war target
[22:18:50] Indiego Montoya > shit, is it me?
[22:19:02] Kazemin > lol
[02:35:49] Hessian203 > haavOc how much isk u want for it?
[02:36:20] haav0c > everything you ever loved
[02:36:28] Hessian203 > lol
[21:56:56] haav0c > WH?
[21:57:00] haav0c > WHERE?
[21:57:04] Bull61 > lol
[21:57:09] haav0c > /emote grabs his buzzard.
[23:12:57] Hessian203 > anyone got a good raven fit
[23:13:23] haav0c > >. sec
[23:13:44] haav0c > pick a number between one and seventeen >.>
[23:14:18] Hessian203 > lol
[23:14:22] Hessian203 > the best one
[23:14:42] Hessian203 > 15
[23:14:59] haav0c > Raven – perfect l4 starter (Thanks, mike from battleclinic!)
[23:15:07] haav0c > 14 was the armor-tanked one 😛
[23:15:17] haav0c > best dps? cruise fit? best tank?
[23:15:20] haav0c > torpedo?
[23:15:22] haav0c > spider?
[23:15:25] haav0c > energy spider?
[23:15:49] haav0c > Whatever I meant when I called a fit “tridomenergybuff”?
[23:16:04] FOXER > best fit for “I don’t know what the fuck I may run up against cuz it’s null sec and there are a lot of people that want to kill me”?
[23:16:25] haav0c > that’d be the one w/ the module that won’t let you leave the pos shield.
[23:16:40] Hessian203 > lol
[03:05:11] haav0c > /emote renames his scan ship “the gynecologist”
[03:05:20] Dead Rickman > lmao
[04:16:18] haav0c > there, everything is fixed forever.
[04:16:24] James Bryant > lol
[04:24:50] Caladan09 > no idea im just a grunt, i dont know why we are shooting you, who is paying us or how much
[04:24:54] Caladan09 > I just shoot you : )
[04:25:00] haav0c > gee, thanks.
[04:25:09] Caladan09 > lol
[04:25:10] haav0c > finally, some corperate honesty
[04:25:42] Caladan09 > lol
[13:31:08] haav0c > sigh…stable w/ energy emissions V and management IV
[13:31:18] haav0c > was hoping haaving to avoid trainin V on R and xferr…
[13:31:33] Thor9 > dont need to
[13:31:50] haav0c > i’m assume you just came into the conversation, so i’ll humor you.
[13:31:53] haav0c > why?
[13:31:54] Thor9 > got no clue what we r talking bout, but assuming is a guardian or summit?
[13:32:00] TechPalatinus > domi
[13:32:04] haav0c > /emote was right!
[13:32:11] Thor9 > lol haavoc 😛
[13:35:48] Thor9 > i dont got energy management to V, its a long ass skill, well atleast for my att’s
[13:36:00] haav0c > that’s on the list after “bitchin legion scan ship”
[13:36:06] Thor9 > hehe
[14:23:23] haav0c > I suppose I’ll do the math, then factor in that we don’t have min frig, min cruiser or min BS skillbooks here.
[14:24:15] James Bryant > I can get ’em
[14:24:19] haav0c > ..
[14:24:20] haav0c > james
[14:24:32] haav0c > I need minmatar frig, cruiser and BS
[14:24:35] haav0c > all x2
[14:24:39] James Bryant > hehe, k
[14:26:02] James Bryant > straight bs or min bs?
[14:26:13] haav0c > min bs
[14:26:21] haav0c > i wasn’t aware there was a straight BS skill
[14:26:29] James Bryant > maybe there isn’t
[14:27:29] haav0c > /emote was expecting a “bullshit” joke
[14:27:50] James Bryant > Yeah, I was going to go for one, but it seemed too obvoius
[14:28:07] haav0c > bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy there
[14:28:17] James Bryant > hehehe
[14:28:55] haav0c > heh…I love being able to change my optimal in under a second.
[14:29:34] haav0c > ohhh, that bastard went to 50km away
[14:29:44] haav0c > break out the mothafuckin microwave crystals!
[14:29:57] James Bryant > hehe
[17:39:43] haav0c > you think you can hid, little sig?
[17:39:48] haav0c > see, i know there were two sigs in system
[17:39:58] haav0c > and i’ve already pinned your little friend
[17:40:05] haav0c > so you’ve gotta be some-where nearby.
[17:40:10] Dame Shui > lol
[03:52:51] korleena muran > apparently i am a hell of a salesman \o/
[03:52:56] Mahashou > lol
[14:53:47] FOXER > lol
[14:54:11] Shadowrath > lol
[15:26:19] Indiego Montoya > heh, tower fueling is much easier w/ 64k m3 hauling capacity
[15:26:54] Damark > 64k?
[15:26:56] Damark > what has that
[15:27:20] Indiego Montoya > an itty V and mammoth taped together 😛
[15:27:25] Indiego Montoya > thanks korleena!
[15:27:31] korleena muran > don’t mention it.
[15:28:08] korleena muran > anything for someone as amazingly sexy as you.
[15:28:17] Damark > haha
[15:29:42] ExookiZ > lol
[ 2010.05.19 17:08:06 ] haav0c > i know >.>
[ 2010.05.19 17:08:18 ] haav0c > got 7 days still >.>
[ 2010.05.19 17:08:23 ] haav0c > faking an accent is hard.
[ 2010.05.19 17:08:39 ] Quivering Palm > hahaha epic 😀
[ 2010.05.20 04:04:01 ] haav0c > yes, that’s the important bit
[ 2010.05.20 04:04:08 ] haav0c > i went on an exchange trip to germany
[ 2010.05.20 04:04:12 ] haav0c > at 15
[ 2010.05.20 04:04:14 ] Nyxanthia > i feel old 😮
[ 2010.05.20 04:04:20 ] Nyxanthia > legal drinking 16 there :p
[ 2010.05.20 04:04:23 ] Klann Schreck > nyx, dont worry
[ 2010.05.20 04:04:24 ] haav0c > yup
[ 2010.05.20 04:04:25 ] Klann Schreck > you ARE old
[ 2010.05.20 04:04:27 ] haav0c > it’s 15, i think.
[ 2010.05.20 04:04:36 ] Nyxanthia > well thx klann
[ 2010.05.20 04:04:40 ] Klann Schreck > welcome!
[ 2010.05.20 04:04:46 ] Nyxanthia > no haav its 16
[ 2010.05.20 04:04:50 ] haav0c > sure?
[ 2010.05.20 04:04:54 ] haav0c > i must have been 16 then
[ 2010.05.20 04:05:01 ] haav0c > had my first experience with a beer funnel.
[ 2010.05.20 04:05:14 ] Nyxanthia > yes i am sure i am german :p
[ 2010.05.20 04:05:22 ] Nyxanthia > beer funnels are bad 😮
[ 2010.05.20 04:05:27 ] haav0c > the first damn minute we’re out of sight, i suggest we go buy a nice sandwich.
[ 2010.05.20 04:05:37 ] haav0c > the other 11 people all agree to go buy bear
[ 2010.05.20 04:05:38 ] haav0c > beer
[ 2010.05.20 04:05:52 ] haav0c > and end up getting “alkoholfrei “bier”
[ 2010.05.20 04:05:59 ] Nyxanthia > LOL
[ 2010.05.20 04:06:16 ] haav0c > and apparently i was the only one who actually spoke german enough to point it out >.>
[ 2010.05.20 04:10:02 ] haav0c > that was an interesting month…
[ 2010.05.20 04:10:13 ] haav0c > half the time, i’d walk up to a store…
[ 2010.05.20 04:10:23 ] haav0c > manage to communicate “i would want to yes that buy”
[ 2010.05.20 04:10:34 ] haav0c > and the dude’d reply “I speak english, yaknow”
[ 2010.05.20 04:13:28 ] haav0c > “tut mir leid, aber wie viel kostet dass?”
[ 2010.05.20 04:13:38 ] haav0c > “five euro”
[ 2010.05.20 04:13:45 ] haav0c > “darf ich das kaufe?”
[ 2010.05.20 04:13:54 ] haav0c > “you wanna bag with that?”
[ 2010.05.20 04:14:00 ] haav0c > “… yeah, sure.”
[ 2010.05.20 04:14:10 ] Nyxanthia > hehe
[ 2010.05.20 04:19:05 ] haav0c > self described grammer…something.
[ 2010.05.20 04:19:18 ] haav0c > enthusiast?
[ 2010.05.20 04:19:18 ] James Bryant > lol
[ 2010.05.20 04:19:39 ] James Bryant > That’ll work, yeah
[ 2010.05.20 04:20:32 ] James Bryant > Certainly makes it sound less lame
[ 2010.05.20 04:21:05 ] haav0c > makes you sound like a scrabble-playing grandmother >.>
[ 2010.05.20 04:21:24 ] James Bryant > lol
[ 2010.05.20 04:54:48 ] Chal0ner > i think its safe to assume the station is camped?
[ 2010.05.20 04:55:52 ] haav0c > it could be a very agressive piece of space dust, but ya
[ 2010.05.20 04:56:09 ] Chiana Moro > lol
[ 2010.05.20 04:12:18 ] James Bryant > Shingling the roof?
[ 2010.05.20 04:12:25 ] haav0c > ya
[ 2010.05.20 04:12:31 ] haav0c > what’s the verb form of shingle?
[ 2010.05.20 04:12:53 ] James Bryant > Like, literally making roof repairs, or is that a euphamism of which I am not familiar?
[ 2010.05.20 04:14:17 ] haav0c > literally making roof repairs
[ 2010.05.20 04:14:27 ] haav0c > would be a heck of a euphamism tho
[ 2010.05.20 04:14:45 ] James Bryant > lol
[ 2010.05.20 14:47:44 ] haav0c > happy birthday to me, happy birthday to me, five days to a leeeigon, happy birthday to me!
[ 2010.05.20 14:47:52 ] Cole Sarver > lol
[ 2010.05.22 03:58:16 ] Indiego Montoya > HA!
[ 2010.05.22 03:59:32 ] Indiego Montoya > found the damn button
[ 2010.05.22 03:59:43 ] Indiego Montoya > and subsequently all the other buttons
[ 2010.05.22 03:59:57 ] Indiego Montoya > is “heyo” enough of an application text?
[ 2010.05.22 04:00:32 ] Klyria > Whatever gets response :D.
[ 2010.05.22 04:00:36 ] Damark > lol
[ 2010.05.22 06:17:53 ] haav0c > ok, the letters are starting to dance merry jigs.
[ 2010.05.22 06:17:57 ] haav0c > nn
[ 2010.05.22 06:18:07 ] Jack Miton > lol
[ 2010.05.22 16:54:09 ] Indiego Montoya > how’s a sacrelidge?
[ 2010.05.22 16:54:13 ] Indiego Montoya > sacri*
[ 2010.05.22 16:54:33 ] Saelyre > It’s pretty good.
[ 2010.05.22 16:54:36 ] Saelyre > Tanks like a god.
[ 2010.05.22 16:56:59 ] Indiego Montoya > crist, the resists on this thing are sexy as heck
[ 2010.05.22 16:57:54 ] Indiego Montoya > /emote slaps on a rep, DC and thermic hardener and calls it a day.
[ 2010.05.22 16:58:06 ] Saelyre > lol
[ 2010.05.22 17:11:56 ] Indiego Montoya > i sent the application last night…i think
[ 2010.05.22 17:12:05 ] Damark > hah nice
[ 2010.05.22 17:12:25 ] Indiego Montoya > everything’s kinda blurry
[ 2010.05.22 17:12:47 ] Damark > yea tell me about it
[ 2010.05.22 17:12:48 ] Damark > lol
[ 2010.05.22 17:14:39 ] Indiego Montoya > where’s my potassium nitrate?
[ 2010.05.22 17:15:18 ] Damark > fyuck you and your banans
[ 2010.05.22 17:15:19 ] Damark > lol
[01:43:52] CALUGARU > hahaha a level?
[01:43:54] CALUGARU > what shmucks
[01:44:15] haav0c > i’ll hold him down, you whack him with the pocket protectors!
[01:44:27] CALUGARU > lol
[01:48:23] CALUGARU > if i told u , why would i bother reading it later?
[01:48:26] haav0c > lol
[01:48:32] haav0c > trial and error ftw!
[01:48:44] CALUGARU > lol
[01:49:55] haav0c > damnit, i was scanning.
[01:50:01] haav0c > stop distracting me with valid points!
[01:50:19] CALUGARU > lol
Clique > It was officially stated during the 7th alliance tourney 😉
TeaDaze > I miss being part of the fun
Bazax > should re join it tea
haav0c > you can still softly whisper to yourself as the match goes on 😛
Jackhunter > lol
TeaDaze > Hehe
TeaDaze > I applied but they picked Kil2 and Verone, can’t blame them for wanting more experienced lead commentators 😛
Eucleides > oh psh, you were fine
Cirocke > lawl
In case you’re one of the few people who read this blog, yet don’t employ tracking agents on all my chars to fervently follow my every move, k162space and the group of people we tend to socialize with have moved out of our C6 and into our corp’s null space, where we intend to mine the heck out of anything that looks at us funny.
Reasons behind this include:
1. At present, we lack the manpower to clear C6 combat sites, and don’t have enough people in the same timezone to clear the static C5 sites with any respectable isk/hour. This means that when a WH grav (appears maybe once every week and a half) vanishes (4 days after activation max), we’re left twiddling our thumbs while the null division of the corp fills corp chat with “omg these rocks are huge lulz wut u guyz doin?”
2. With the market dropping remarkably from influxes from null and such, having more access to better ores cannot be a bad thing.
3. By renting from Atlas, we guarantee neighbors with more developed industrial hubs, making them a much better candidate for AFKing SB pilots.
4. I managed to convince Blake that “dirty donut” was a bad idea to call the move operation, and “K162space” as a blog name does not necessarily constitute living in WH, but can apply to simply frequently using them. Our corp’s “WH more frequently” space upgrade thingy should facilitate this, as well as the ATLAS renter’s “What the heck are wormholes? Sure, you can scan for the things, just stay away from our plexes” mindset.
I’m serious here, I was moving an orca through a highsec-C5-C5-C5-null route, and when I come to the null WH, there’s a blue punisher and drake floating. Warning them about trying to run C5 sites in BC or smaller hulls, I am immediately screamed at to
Null inhabitant->”OMFG DON’T JUMP DONTDONTDONT”
Me->”Why shouldn’t I jump?”
Null inhabitant->”THE WH IS UNSTABLE”
(I check, “this wormhole has not yet has it’s mass disrupted by ships, this WH is beginning to decay and shouldn’t last another day”)
Me->”What makes you say that?”
Null inhabitant->”OMG DUDE THE WH IS CALLED “UNSTABLE WH”, LET US GET OUT BEFORE YOU RISK IT”
(Again, C5 connecting WH.)
So, high hopes to still run WH sites and such, with local chat(strange and unfamiliar concept), while not facing impending doom from CCRES or slightly less doom from Aperture Harmonics, who recently asked Raath (www.Staticmapper.com) to take http://www.staticmapper.com (for all your WH static database needs) down.
[ 2010.04.15 17:50:35 ] Raath Nambode > it’s an interesting pattern that emerges I think
[ 2010.04.15 17:50:58 ] killedus3times > ok I will save you the trouble a bit if you will consider taking down that website of yours )
[ 2010.04.15 17:51:36 ] killedus3times > info becomes useless if everyone has access to it. convert your knowledge into recruits
So, ya, looking forward to fun times actually doing something other than mining when there is nothing to mine. Like…um….
God no, I’m not leaving the corp, which I just got director status (thanks caz!).
No, I’d like to talk today about leaving corps in general. For people who expected drama, large ship explosions or corp theft, sorry to disappoint.
We’ve all been there before, sitting in a group of people, and everyone’s laughing and smiling except you. The leader suggests that everyone do something, and everyone but you wholeheartedly agrees, and you don’t want to do it, seeming to leave you with the option of doing something you don’t want but have to do, or leaving and trying to find a group that meets what you want to do.
In Eve, a corp usually has a specific purpose, and then states this purpose openly to attract similarly minded people in order to do the thing together, which is more fun, talking, laughing, ectera.
At some point, you may find yourself at ends with corp policy. Maybe something as small and silly as “no talking in local”, or “no mining during wardecs to keep our losses down”, or something silly or serious that you have a problem with. In this scenario, the first thing you do is to see if you can go along with it. Like, try talking in private convos or rolling an industrial alt. If you just can’t deal with the policies, then bring it up with the CEO. Have meaningful points to support your argument and know his points ahead of time so you don’t walk away from the argument feeling happy and realize something crucially flawed in his principles while making hot tea and ending up spilling it on the cat which then latches onto your leg.
If you just can’t deal with the policies or the people, leaving the corp is certainly an option. Eve is a game. It isn’t your job, it isn’t your childhood friend group, and leaving a corp is not the same drastic change that breaking up with someone in real life is.
If you leave a corp, you leave it because you can’t or don’t want do what they do, or because you hate one or more of the people in it. You can find a new corp, and do what you want to, but the friends in the old corp, that is, if they were really friends and didn’t just like you because you could fly a Rorqual or HIC or falcon, will stay in contact with you. Most corps have private or public channels, and no-one’s banning you from staying in those and talking and laughing with old corpies even as you make new friends.
You should never feel bad about leaving a corp. Unless you stole shit. Jerk. If you didn’t steal shit and you still feel bad about leaving, then there’s some part of the corp you still like and you shouldn’t leave. Simple as that.
Fly with friends that aren’t constrained by the ticker after your name.
I wouldn’t call myself a carebear. I live in W-Space, have tried null, tend to take the risky shot over the safe one and usually end up killed for it. Repeatedly.
Anyway, here’s today’s misadventure:
I’m scanning, after the fifth C5 wh, which has a probable C5 static, It’s about 2 am. I plan to go to bed immediately if not sooner, so I launch five probes at 4 AU and two at two AU, overlapping the two twos and a four with the remaining four fours (Say that five times fast). I go round the system, scanning at each planet. Whenever I get a red dot or circle at 10% strength or more, I center the two 2 AU probes on top and rescan, which usually gives me the type, ranging from Ladar(damnit), Radar(argh), Magnetometric(curses!) and Unknown(Yay!).
Anyway, I find a WH on the first sweep and warp to it, K162 from XXdeathXX space, making this our seventh encounter with the Russian kind and our third with XXdeath in particular. The silver lining to this particular vodka-fueled cloud of cryillic-spewing death was that the WH was end of lifetime. Good thing about the end of lifetime, but that usually means that they’ve been here and activated the static some point in the last 24 hours, which will make any route I scan through this system unstable closing-time wise.
More scanning, I find the C5 static and decide to stay in system to check the last planet, partially for a sense of completion and partially because the XXdeath WH had had its stability disrupted a tad, meaning that it had been used rather heavily. Lo and behold, highsec WH.
Inwardly cheering, I grab a skillbook or two, log my freighter alt in and scurry home, updating my alt’s train queues (logistical domi FTW). I then, using the passive income profits, buy about…450 mil worth, which gets me two fitted gang domis, two fitted gang myrms and a dps apocalypse.
(You can’t tell, but I was using the word “DPS ironically, since as of this writing I just barely break 300 dps with a gank-fit apoch. I need to git me sum supportin skills!).
Anyway, three A.M. now, I shove all 300.3k m3 into the freighter, set destination to the highsec system, undock, stop ship, warp to the first gate and start cursing like I’ve walked into a door while simultaniously developing Tourette’s syndrome.
This highsec WH is on a highsec island, making it impossible to get to without going through three lowsec systems and all the pirates contained wherein. And I have to get a freighter, one of the biggest, slowest ships in Eve through, or wait the 4-5 days it will take to find a BS-supporting unoccupied route again. Feeling the pangs of sleep, I go to bed with an alarm set for just after downtime, five hours from now and set the freighter to autopilot to the last highsec system.
Dreamless night, wake up, get my main outside the WH at the first lowsec, freighter jumps in, starts warping to the next lowsec gate, main char(in Buzzard) get in web range, webs, warning pops up, I ignore it, and my Buzzard starts taking gate fire as the freighter warps off.
Apparently, I had forgotten that the freighter alt was in the altcorp I had created to protect my C1 and/or hauling shenanigans from wardecs, so, panicking, I mash the “warp” button on whatever I have selected at the time, which turns out to be the next gate.
Next local has a dude in it, I warp the freighter off the gate, unassisted, lands on next gate and jumps through without incident, main char docks and buys a frig w/ webs, and after the 15 minute jerk timer, I dock the freighter in one station, undock in pod, dock in another to get an actual SHIP, undock, jettison the tritanium gratuity gift, main steals it, freighter steals it back and BAM, I can web through the last lowsec. Which I do.
Dock in highsec island, move one Dominix through before realizing that three out of the five wormholes in the chain have gone end of lifetime, and if they collapse either my freighter will be stuck on the wrong side of several lowsec gates from jita or my main, albeit buzzard-less, will be stuck far, far away from where I need his talents. I move one more ship, web the freighter through the lowsecs again and nip back home before the WH closes, which it does, fifteen minutes later.