Carrier Bounce

We had an encounter with a rather large T3/T2 fleet from Black-Wing (B-W) Corporation this week in WH space that resulted in two Hulks and a Carrier loss.

For a number of hours, we had been mining a 150,000 unit Crokite roid. For those of you that don’t know, a 150 K unit roid is rather large. In order to not bounce off of it, you have to warp to 20 K away.

Our Carrier pilot wanted to have some fun so he warped the Carrier to 0 on the roid. This resulted in the Carrier coming out of warp inside the roid and bouncing away at 5,000 m/s.

Just as the Carrier was starting to slow down, Combat probes showed up on the directional scanner.

[ 2009.11.09 20:52:03 ] Blake > COMBAT PROBES
[ 2009.11.09 20:52:09 ] s > oh shit
[ 2009.11.09 20:52:13 ] H > to POS ppl
[ 2009.11.09 20:52:46 ] h > omw back!
[ 2009.11.09 20:52:56 ] s > holy shit
[ 2009.11.09 20:53:25 ] T > theres too many tech 3 out there
[ 2009.11.09 20:53:49 ] T > legion legion loki diemos proteus tengu tengu

Black-Wing had a good scanning crew and were on top of us within 40 seconds and caught us in a moment of vulnerability. We were able to get 3 out of 5 Hulks back to the POS before the Phobos bubble was up. To our dismay, the bubble trapped two Hulks and the Chimera Carrier.

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Chimera Under Attack

The Hulks were destroyed within a few seconds and then they started to work on the Carrier. We counted 11 T2/T3 ships that assaulted the Carrier. After some smacktalk in local, and a threat to take down our POS, or Carrier pilot began his self-destruct sequence so they would not get a Carrier killmail.

*BOOM*, Self-destruct.

After a few minutes, we saw the T2/T3 fleet go off directional and a salvage crew arrive on-site to salvage the Carrier and Hulks wrecks.

The lesson? It is ok to play with your capitals (if you insure them).

Links:

1680 x 1050 no Overview screenshot of Chimera Carrier under attack.
Black-Wing (B-W) Killboard


T3 PvP

A Legion and Tengu entered our C5 system and logged off at some point unnoticed by any of our pilots. When my WH partners came online one afternoon after downtime and started mining, the T3 ships attacked; 2 Hulks down. Later in the day, I thought the system was clear so I started mining; 1 more Hulk down.

At this point the damage was 3 Hulks, so around 300 M in damage.

A corpmate scanned down an exit to empire and found that our C5 linked to a C2 with friendlies, who had a direct link to Amarr. We got a lot of compressed ore, C320, and C540 gas out to market.

We talked about getting the Orca back in WH space from Amarr with new Hulks, fuel, and mods.  We took a defensive approach to the Orca move and fleeted up to camp the WHs. A Dominix, Raven, Apocalypse, Typhoon, Prophecy, and Wolf camped the WHs as the Orca moved back to the POS.

As the Orca finished the jumps from Amarr into the C2, and finally from the C2 into our C5, a Tengu appeared 186 K off of the C2 Amarr WH.

Tengu 186 K Away

We had a good force, so we decided to engage. Once the Tengu got some fire on it, a Legion and Megathron came online to defend it. We took a beating and lost around half our fleet with no losses to the T3/Megathron fleet.

We retreated into our C5 and the WH linking to the C2 closed behind the T3/Megathron force. We warped to our POS and then sat quiet for a few minutes. The Tengu pilot started to talk in local.

Buying a Route

They were trapped!

After some more talk in local, we learned that they have been scouting us out for a few days and were staying logged off in our system. They waited for us to start mining and then warped to the Gravmetric site we were working on to gank us. Easily done as we only had 1 active Gravmetric site.

We agreed on the price of 500 M for scanning down a new exit after we had another round of PvP. They agreed and we selected a planet.

1x Tengu
1x Legion
1x Megathron

vs.

1x Chimera (Caldari Carrier)
2x DPS Typhoon
1x Tackle Taranis
1x Dominix fitted for Remote Repping

We got the Megathron down first and then worked on the Legion. Soon only the Tengu was left and it had one amazing tank. It was successfully tanking 8x Carrier Fighters, 2x Typhoon, 5x Ogre I’s, and other smaller drones. We were not able to break the tank, so we congratulated the Tengu pilot and let him warp off.

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We got 250 M for scanning down the C2 WH and another 250 M for the empire link. After salvaging and looting the wrecks, which were full of Faction gear, we came out ahead in the fight.

I lost a Hulk and a rigged Dominix and managed to net 100 M. Not a bad day in WH space.


Organized POS Attack

We packed up and moved into a neighboring C5 last night. My WH partner and I found an excellent new system with some 35 signatures:
  • 11 Grav (3 core)
  • 15 Ladar (4 core)
  • 7 Radar
  • 2 Mag
  • 4 WHs

Core sites in C5 WH space usually have around 1 to 1.5 B worth of Arkonor, Bistot, and Crokite guarded by a Sleeper BS or a BS and two support Battlecruisers so we jumped at the opportunity to move into this new system.

Our move procedure is as follows:

  1. Get our alts in cloaked ships on any active WHs in system.
  2. Send cloaked hauler into new system to anchor and online Small Tower.
  3. When Small Tower is up and has fuel, begin to move all ships into Small Tower POS bubble. Start with valuable ships such as Orcas, Hulks, and Battleships. Tip: always, always have more than 24 H worth of Strontium in your tower.
  4. Take down Large Tower from old system and launch in new system.
  5. Once the Large Tower is up, setup defenses, launch Hangars, move ships, etc.
  6. Take down Small Tower

Why not just launch a Large Tower and do the move in one step? Well, a small tower can be up and running in 15 minutes while a large tower can take over an hour to bubble. You can land and claim a home in a new system ninja-style with a Small POS. While moving an interesting thing happened.

In between steps 3 and 4, my alt was attacked and podded by a Phobos (Heavy Interdictor) and a support Battlecruiser right outside the connecting WH between our old and new systems. I was able to identify the gankers and warn my partner. We immediately stopped moving all valuable assets and switched our main accounts into Covert Ops ships.

If you are a anti-pirate WH corporation, set Endless Destruction (END..) to red; they attacked and podded my alt character and began a POS assault.

My main character was at the Small POS and within a few minutes, the Phobos and support Battlecruiser were outside the Small POS. Next a Carrier arrived, followed by two BS’s, a Nighthawk (Command Ship), and a T3 ship. It seemed that they want all the juicy ships inside our Small POS and were hoping that we didn’t have any Strontium.

Enemy carrier attacking POS

Enemy carrier attacking POS

 
Bouncer I‘s were launched from the Carrier and then the missile/laser spam started. We had a full complement of Strontium in our Small POS so we sat and waited. My WH partner zoomed around in a Covert Ops, watching them in our system. They came in from a neighbor C5 system that we had not yet explored.
 
A hauler came up on directional and was soon at the POS. Two Mobile Large Warp Disruptor II‘s were setup to enclose our POS in order to lock down any ship trying to get out.
 
Double Bubble

Double Bubble

These people apparently meant business and wanted our POS down. After around 1.5 hours of POS bashing, we went into reinforced mode with a 1 D 16 H timer. Their guns went silent and every ship remained still for a number of minutes.

I knew they were chatting about what to do — keep a scanner ship logged off in system and scan down an empire link for them to attack once were out of reinforced mode? simply leave the system and forget about us?

After 5 minutes, ships started to warp off or dock up in the carrier. The Mobile Warp Disruptors were taken down and they left the system. Whew. It was very fun to watch as I have never been on the offensive end of a POS attack.

WH Rule #1: Don’t talk about WH space. Er, I mean… WH Rule #1: Always have Strontium in your towers.

If we didn’t have any Strontium, the bubble would have gone down. Multiple Battleships, support Battlecruisers, an Orca, and haulers from every race would have been theirs for the taking — a multi-billion ISK loss and a podding back to Empire.

A few hours after they had left, we finished hauling over the Large POS from the old system and got it online in the new system. Ah, so nice when that Large POS bubble goes online.

Nice try Endless Destruction. Now to make some money!


Nyx Supercarrier Cost Estimation

Nyx Supercarrier BPO

Nyx Supercarrier BPO

Nyx Supercarrier Build Cost

Part Quantity Jita Average Part Total
Capital Armor Plates 165 5,325,750.00 878,748,750.00
Capital Capacitor Battery 165 4,426,793.36 730,420,904.37
Capital Clone Vat Bay 220 7,799,999.99 1,715,999,997.80
Capital Computer System 165 5,792,307.69 955,730,768.45
Capital Construction Parts 220 4,199,999.13 923,999,808.27
Capital Corporate Hangar Bay 220 5,962,885.28 1,311,834,761.20
Capital Drone Bay 550 3,779,996.62 2,078,998,142.32
Capital Jump Drive 220 6,200,030.00 1,364,006,600.00
Capital Power Generator 110 3,700,000.00 407,000,000.00
Capital Propulsion Engine 165 4,629,035.61 763,790,875.32
Capital Sensor Cluster 165 4,640,500.02 765,682,502.48
Capital Shield Emitter 110 5,250,000.00 577,500,000.00
Capital Ship Maintenance Bay 220 7,275,998.75 1,600,719,724.56
Total Cost 14,074,432,834.77
Parts m3 26,950,000.00

Nyx Mothership Build Cost

Part Quantity Jita Average Part Total
Capital Armor Plates 150 5,325,750.00 798,862,500.00
Capital Capacitor Battery 150 4,426,793.36 664,019,003.97
Capital Clone Vat Bay 200 7,799,999.99 1,559,999,998.00
Capital Computer System 150 5,792,307.69 868,846,153.14
Capital Construction Parts 200 4,199,999.13 839,999,825.70
Capital Corporate Hangar Bay 200 5,962,885.28 1,192,577,055.64
Capital Drone Bay 500 3,779,996.62 1,889,998,311.20
Capital Jump Drive 220 6,200,030.00 1,364,006,600.00
Capital Power Generator 100 3,700,000.00 370,000,000.00
Capital Propulsion Engine 150 4,629,035.61 694,355,341.20
Capital Sensor Cluster 150 4,640,500.02 696,075,002.25
Capital Shield Emitter 100 5,250,000.00 525,000,000.00
Capital Ship Maintenance Bay 200 7,275,998.75 1,455,199,749.60
Total Cost 12,918,939,540.70
Parts m3 24,700,000.00

Nyx Mothership Estimated Cost: 12.919 B
Nyx Supercarrier Estimated Cost: 14.074 B

Difference: +1.155 B


New Gallente Supercarrier

Here are the Carrier changes to the Nyx as outlined by CCP Abathur in his Devblog Dominion – The Capital Battlefield.

Thananos and Nyx Carriers

Thananos and Nyx Carriers