happy anniversary
Posted: 2011-01-24 Filed under: eveonline | Tags: destroy, eve online, explode, haul, kill, loss, PLEX, pos farm 6 CommentsSo, about a year ago I won a few of Roc’s Ramblings Advent contests. I got some nice ammo, a cynabal, a few dramiels and other ships I could not fly, didn’t know how to fly and those that know me personally would never trust me with due to my abysmal kill/loss record.
SO, I instantly sold all of the ships, modules and other items that would make a pvper very happy for a week or two to the tune of about 600-800 mil, more than my little mining self had ever seen due to losing several hulks and never really mining anything harder to find than scordite.
Being a bit of a simpleton, I asked around “what would you do with 800 mil”. I recieved various responses like “faction mods”, “rattlesnake”, “awesome mission ship”, “go t3”, and more than a few “give it all to me lulz”
Then, I had a flash of insight: PASSIVE INCOME!
For those who just play Eve to spin ships in station, here’s a list of the various ways you can get isk in Eve, ordered from “most involved” to “least involved”:
Piracy/ransoming
WH pos ransoming
WH sleeper farming
WH mining
l5 missions
nullsec ratting
l4 missions
ninja salvaging l4 missions
nullsec mining
highsec mining
station trading
courier contracts
contract scamming
moon reactions
t2 component construction
spamming jita chat with scams.
This isn’t a complete nor completely accurate list, but I tried, darn it.
Anywho, after several pokes into the various passive incomes, I tried my hand at a pos farm. I was drawn in because it was the only passive income with a large income sum, and because it was something I wanted to do in Eve. So, I spent all that isk on two large towers and anchored them in a C1. Then, apologized profusely and moved to a different C1.
It has been exactly a year since then. Those two towers have grown to fourteen. Weekly maintenance has been about 10-15 hours and weekly cash flow has been about 300-400 mil.
As of this writing someone is blowing up those towers slowly, one by one. They will not be going back up. Whatever I can salvage from the wreckage (let’s be honest, it’s one guy and fourteen large towers, he’s gonna get bored soon) I will sell to fund future ventures.
Let me back up a bit. Typically, I refuel and rotate the towers on a weekly basis, anywhere from friday to sunday, depending on HW that week and upcoming tests, ect. So, this saturday I scan the highsec WH, check it annnnnnddd…..
Highsec island. And since I’m a moron and don’t keep a week of fuel in the towers, the towers will all offline soon. So, I take enough fuel to keep the main tower going for about a day and put alllllll the reaction profit in it.
Sunday night, the WH closes, I scan a new one. NOT a highsec island. I warp the freighter there, gets there at about midnight sunday night, before a 10 am psychology graduate-level class. And I’ve been doing boring stuff all day.
So I play a few rounds of Starcraft 2. Then bed. Wake up, am actually awake for psych class, am halfway to German when I realize that I forgot to refuel the main tower. Logon, everything’s swanky, I run a day’s worth of fuel in and online it. Go to German, leave, log back on….
Corp hangar gone. Carbide’s gone. Shield is up tho. So apparently in the 30 minute window of onlining they killed the corp hangar and hauled out about 360k m3 worth of carbides.
One sec… Nope, they’re not answering so I don’t know if they destroyed or hauled out the 2 bil worth of carbides. Meh.
Just to recap:
For the last year, these towers have been completely defenseless. They’ve all had two hardeners(offlined), have run out of fuel on multiple occasions, the actual main tower has assorted ECM and laser batteries(also offline) and I’m not even sure I actually put ammo in them or not.
And yet, these towers have stood proud against the multiple peoples coming in and out of a C1 highsec WH, devoters, eagles, falcons, ect, only to be laid low by a 2008 character in cane and hound with an impeccable sense of timing.
I’ve been thinking about it, and the only conceivable reason for this sudden bad luck in terms of total operational shutdown is that, for the last few days I’ve had 5 bil or so in wallet due to missing a few plexes and not spending the excess isk like water. This has been expressed to my various friends like so:
haav > hey, guess who has two thumbs and five bil?
haav > THIS GUY!
So, once again:
Murphy, you complete and utter asshole.
Spent 1.5 of that on fuel and reactants for this week, and assuming this hound and cane don’t destroy the 14 large towers, that’s another 2 bil.
So I’ll be using this to catapult myself back into an actual WH for sleeper killing, probably in tengus.
As a related note, I saved all the BMs for my static’s for the last year. If anyone wants all 113 of them for some charting purpose, here’s a teaser:
And here’s the last printscreen I’ll take of my WH. Fare the well, for you have paid a great deal of my account time for very little effort on my part.
Indiego Montoya > hey
Bacsalmas > hi
Indiego Montoya > just wondering how much carbide you got outta that hangar
Indiego Montoya > and wanted to ask you not to blow up my infrastructure.
Indiego Montoya > that was this week’s haul
Indiego Montoya > there’s nothing left in the silos
Bacsalmas > I think the danger of all pos π
Indiego Montoya > but they’re a bitch to reanchor
Indiego Montoya > hmm?
Bacsalmas > you pay for, or shoot the POS ?
Indiego Montoya > go ahead and shoot
Indiego Montoya > i’m just saying there’s nothing there.
Bacsalmas > ok π
Indiego Montoya > o/
At least you had a good run while it lasted.
Time to try something new, less tedious. Like… PI!
dammit! i wanted to kill those towers!
I finally read one of your posts and I got to hand it to you man, it’s not half fuckin bad
I don’t want to be the one to poop on this but 300 million for 10-15 hours work? That’s an appalling income and you would have done far better buying a pimp missioning ship for much less risk. Or just running the combat sites in said wormhole.
You’re right, and I purposefully undermined the profitability, bit of an Eve-reflex on reflection XD. I usually was on various blogs/websites while managing, so it actually went fairly slow. As an actual analysis:
hauling: 0 hours (AFK AP)
hauling into WH: 1-2 hours
distributing fuel: 1 hour
distributing tier one reactants: 1-2 hours
t2 reactants: 1 hour
looting towers: 1 hour
so more of five to seven hours, for about 500 mil/ week. That’s as accurate as I can guesstimate.
On operating a reaction chain:
1.) I once logged on, saw mailbox flashing, opened mailbox to see a TON of POS spam mail, and then thought “gee, I wonder how much fuel is left in the tower with all the CHA’s at it?” Land at the CHA tower, approach CHA stack, poof, shield drops, tower is out of fuel. All CHA are now offline. Long story short, I now leave a few t1 haulers full of fuel in the SMA and at other towers to prevent a recurrence of this situation. It is never a good time to have billions of ISK sitting all exposed while you scramble about for fuel with which to turn the tower back on
2.) Since the inception of W-Space, I’ve found 10-12 towers that were out of fuel and had yet to be stripped of their arrays (ISK pinatas, if you will). So, having been on both sides of the equation, I understand your dismay at having one lucky jerk-off pillage your ISK-machine. But, I also understand the total glee that comes from running dscan and seeing CHAs, but no force field.
Anyways, been reading your blog for a while now. Thanks for the entertainment and insights =)